superiorno1pne
Preston North End
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Post by superiorno1pne on Apr 29, 2023 13:56:35 GMT
Never mind, ledsons starting 😂 That’s it then most influential player out Divison Two player in🤣🤣
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 29, 2023 14:04:28 GMT
They’ve made four changes. Ledson in for Whiteman.
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 29, 2023 14:46:00 GMT
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Post by deepdaleoldun on Apr 29, 2023 14:49:11 GMT
Which bloody team is dreaming of being on the beach slow boring predictable and the touch of a load of donkeys
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PNE From Afar
Preston North End
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Post by PNE From Afar on Apr 29, 2023 14:59:57 GMT
Thought we'd played well up until the final 3rd.
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Post by mid010101 on Apr 29, 2023 15:34:03 GMT
Men against boys
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superiorno1pne
Preston North End
City of my birth means you support your home town club for better or worse in sickness and health
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Post by superiorno1pne on Apr 29, 2023 15:38:24 GMT
We were never realistically going to do it. Interesting to hear the reaction from the club.
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Post by px6 on Apr 29, 2023 15:45:42 GMT
Pathetic from Ledson for their second. He’s got 10 yards on the goal scorer on the half way line and is 10 behind him when he scored. Sunday league effort.
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Post by ginagee on Apr 29, 2023 18:12:47 GMT
I have been able to get on the website since final whistle … same v Plastics is there a problem or is it me ??
Only listened, Radio Lancs very critical of Alvaro for giving it big and producing nothing, said he had a swagger above the game and wasn’t in it throughout
To say we were still in with a chance with 1 game to go, absolutely no one can slag us, the Manager or the Team off One home match to go, full house at Deepdale, I for one will be there, dwelling on what could have been, how (like Lashers) it may have been but just thankful for what it was …..
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 29, 2023 18:25:41 GMT
Radio Rovers must be clueless and I am going to criticise Lowe (and provide my reasons) (Me too with regards to nly just being able to log on)
This was a match that told a story. For the first 30 mins I thought we matched them. Neither side had any serious attempt on goal. Then something I warned about ….both Ahmed's ability and set piece play. Simple corner, 3 North End players around Ahmed but he wins the ball.
At 1-0 at HT I thought we were still in it.....but then came Lowe's intervention. Why oh why he took Storey off I've no idea. Bauer had been at sea with the pace in the first half and twice gave away dangerous free kicks on the edge of the box.....on the other hand Storey was having a decent game.
It seems to me Lowe has no idea how to read what an oppostion manager is going to do, Heckingbotham had given a number of key players a rest after Wednesday and they were not dominating midfield as they do...surely he would change it if only to let the regulars finish the season at home? As it was we got back in it and for a short period looked like we might get something out of the game. Once Berge and Fleck came on they just ran the game. With the speedy Jebbison now causing panic.
Bauer was twice caught for pace (what on earth he was doing on the left wing for the the third I don't know). Still we should have had what was a clear cut pen which would have made it 3-2 when Delap was brought down. Ref had given us little all afternoon and missed it.
3-2 may have been a fair reflection of the game at that juncture...but we continued to chase it and the defence had more holes in it than a Emmentaler cheese.
Overall it was a lesson ….in playing the ball quickly, taking your chances, using your set pieces (ours were shocking) and what not to do if a goal down.
Told us little about the players...in front of 30,000 DJ tried to play his game but was ordinary and didn't win a tackle until the last 10 minutes, Ledson never learns that repeatedly trying killer through balls only results in giving the ball away. Decent performances from Ononah, Potts (apart from one dreadful pass) and Alvaro (ditto). But no matter the ref we were definitely second best all over the park in the second half.
As for Lowe...that's the 4th time this season we have conceded 4 goals against a team above us (and once at the Lashers but for the same reason). Oncve we go a goal down against a good side (derby game another matter) instead of keeping it tight and trying to nick a goal the team has started to chase the game. It was suicidal today with a back 3 of Potts, Bauer and Hughes and with the best midfielder, Onomah , off. Pointless having Delap, Cannon and Parrot at the front and Woodman kicking long to Delap's height , when players like Berg and Fleck can pick you off in midfield and forwards like McBurnie can find space. He may not have had much to play with on the bench but no competrnt manager changes a side to make it worse like he did!
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PNE From Afar
Preston North End
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Post by PNE From Afar on Apr 29, 2023 18:27:57 GMT
I thought we played OK. Went to get a winner, which we needed, and got caught. twice. DJ and Ledson jogging back for both goals as if they couldnt be bothered, or maybe just ran out of legs. Been a big fan of Bauer but today showed he's lost any pace he had. Some big names will leave to get the wages down and I could easily pick 4 from todays game.
Back next season hopefully with a fully fit squad and Riiiiiiiiissssssss on top form.
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 29, 2023 18:39:43 GMT
I have just read Lowe's opinion of the match,,,,calling the player 'bang average' (which is tru but you don't start having a rant about it) and criticising them for letting the game go the way they did......not a mention of his own contribution to the last 20 minutes. I also thought there were implicit criticisms of the club for not backing his aspirations.
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PNE From Afar
Preston North End
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Post by PNE From Afar on Apr 29, 2023 18:45:17 GMT
I sort of agree with him. At 2-1 certain players heads dropped and all of a sudden it was 3-1. IMO, Lowe will get a better offer and walk.
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Post by px6 on Apr 29, 2023 18:57:01 GMT
Woah, some home truths from Lowe. Credit to him for saying that, but not always wise saying it to the media. Must know most of them will be gone in the summer.
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Post by Mooney on Apr 29, 2023 19:03:16 GMT
I have just read Lowe's opinion of the match,,,,calling the player 'bang average' (which is tru but you don't start having a rant about it) and criticising them for letting the game go the way they did......not a mention of his own contribution to the last 20 minutes. I also thought there were implicit criticisms of the club for not backing his aspirations. Read his interview and at disgusted at what he said. He’s so hypocritical. Yesterday we were ‘20th on budget’ and ‘overachieving’, whereas today it’s a different story. Westley mark 2. Can’t throw the players under the bus like that after all their efforts this season. Fuming. I hope he does get another offer and I hope he takes it. Nothing to do with performance of the team but as someone who works in leadership and has done for 25 years, I know you don’t make comments like that. Jeez I’m fuming.
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Post by markos50 on Apr 29, 2023 19:09:20 GMT
Ok 1 game to go. There are some big issues brewing …….can someone start a new thread about what we expect over the summer and next season and let’s keep a summer chat going.
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Post by markos50 on Apr 29, 2023 19:10:30 GMT
Keep calm Mooney and have a red wine
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Post by Mooney on Apr 29, 2023 19:12:22 GMT
Keep calm Mooney and have a red wine 😂 Good shout. Will do, I just cannot stand people who point fingers but won’t shoulder responsibility! I could write an essay but I’ll go and have a drink instead. Thanks for that! 👍
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 29, 2023 19:54:20 GMT
I have just read Lowe's opinion of the match,,,,calling the player 'bang average' (which is tru but you don't start having a rant about it) and criticising them for letting the game go the way they did......not a mention of his own contribution to the last 20 minutes. I also thought there were implicit criticisms of the club for not backing his aspirations. Read his interview and at disgusted at what he said. He’s so hypocritical. Yesterday we were ‘20th on budget’ and ‘overachieving’, whereas today it’s a different story. Westley mark 2. Can’t throw the players under the bus like that after all their efforts this season. Fuming. I hope he does get another offer and I hope he takes it. Nothing to do with performance of the team but as someone who works in leadership and has done for 25 years, I know you don’t make comments like that. Jeez I’m fuming. Said the same to my lad - yesterday comfortable above 20th - today wants autos.
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Apr 29, 2023 20:40:39 GMT
I have just read Lowe's opinion of the match,,,,calling the player 'bang average' (which is tru but you don't start having a rant about it) and criticising them for letting the game go the way they did......not a mention of his own contribution to the last 20 minutes. I also thought there were implicit criticisms of the club for not backing his aspirations. Read his interview and at disgusted at what he said. He’s so hypocritical. Yesterday we were ‘20th on budget’ and ‘overachieving’, whereas today it’s a different story. Westley mark 2. Can’t throw the players under the bus like that after all their efforts this season. Fuming. I hope he does get another offer and I hope he takes it. Nothing to do with performance of the team but as someone who works in leadership and has done for 25 years, I know you don’t make comments like that. Jeez I’m fuming. Fair point. At first I thought fair play for calling it as it is but why come out with this at this stage, needed to show some passion when we had our last bad run. I’ve said to a few that I hope he talks himself into a job somewhere else as there’s no chance we’ll be sacking him any time soon. Squad needs an overhaul and I’m not sure I’m happy with him overseeing it. Squad will be full of young loans and injury prone gambles that have “been there and done it at this level” Onomah looks a very good player but if he leaves this summer then that has been a shambles of a signing.. January needed a player or 2 that could help us out for half a season, not a player that is here to get fit to find himself a club in the summer. I could accept that if he’s come here and given us half a season but (guessing he was struggling fitness wise to be subbed) to still be being managed is awful.
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Post by deepdaleoldun on Apr 29, 2023 22:13:44 GMT
We were only in the game in the first half because they were in cruise mode we were like I said at half time slow and predictable second half after Lowe's clueless subbing of Story our only good defender we were as wide open as the gates to hell I agree that Lowe only has a very average side but he has proved by his inability to beat any side in the top sixteen this year that he is a very average manager and if he went I wouldn't miss him
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 30, 2023 7:07:20 GMT
We all know tha club needs a complete shake up from the top down to a change in policies and practices:
- Ridsdale and his lack of judgement to go - Move from a short-termism strategy (in an increasingly difficut operational climate) to investing in the club's own players (stop wasting £millions on punts and loans, although I don't mind some of the latter the only time we get in good strikers is half way through the season when desperate, and upgrade the Academy). - Significant improvement in player recruitment - Significant growth in commercial income/stop franchising/leasing and cash in on cheaper season cars
Is it going to happen?
About as much chance of one of replacing Lowe with a more capable'intelligent manager (or of another club of comaparable or higher potential wanting him and willing to buy out his contract).
Luton. Millwall, Coventry even Rovers this season have shown what can be done with a comaparable or smaller wage bill and adding to loans with their own Academy players.
The way PNE is run is a death by a thousand cuts...a slow descent to L1...but one that will accelerate next season if the recruitment does not show a major improvement this summer. As it is we will be starting the season with one hand tied as (Prem} clubs are not going to loan potentially good young players before the season starts.
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pne1971
Preston North End
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Post by pne1971 on Apr 30, 2023 9:05:27 GMT
On one hand I feel a bit sorry for RL, no Ched, Riis, Browne, Whitman, Diaby available today. But going to a back 4 with Hughes and Bauer and still playing 2 WB’s is just plain stupid imo. I get it if Bambo could come on but we didn’t have the players. Whitman was a massive miss today, with Ledo just not getting anything right.
But again RL taking no responsibility just gives me a really bad gut feeling.
Overall the season has been a 6.5 out of ten, primarily because of the poor home form, but a top half finish with some decent Derby games and some great away games made it a reasonable season imo
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 30, 2023 9:13:47 GMT
Highlights for me were Blackburn away and Blackpool at home. There was some shizzle in between. We scored less goals than our relegation season 2010-11.
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superiorno1pne
Preston North End
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Post by superiorno1pne on Apr 30, 2023 10:11:51 GMT
Same old stuff every season however other than the two teams promoted a poor division. We have some very average players Bauer and Ledson in your team puts you down to 9 straight away. Lowe talks the talk but technically naive. All I want is a plan or a strategy from the club that we stick to because the current strategy has failed, dare I say it for the last 60 years!
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Post by tommy on Apr 30, 2023 10:23:07 GMT
Becoming more and more fed up with Lowe’s post match comments. Never his fault. Please just go.
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Post by markos50 on Apr 30, 2023 10:28:41 GMT
Is there a link to lowes comments / interview ?
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
Good luck to all in white.
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 30, 2023 10:51:35 GMT
Is there a link to lowes comments / interview ?[/
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Post by markos50 on Apr 30, 2023 11:20:13 GMT
Cheers phantom
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