dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 23, 2023 9:26:55 GMT
Sheffield Utd v PNE
Sat 29th April 3pm Bramall Lane Personal View on their Squad. We have played the Blades many times in recent seasons. The games have invariably been tight with little between the sides.....most enjoyable outcome for me was last season at the Lane when Riis slotted in a last minute of added time equaliser.  They are a) organised b) very difficult to beat c) have quality throughout the side.. They work their socks off, never give up and, I might add, get stuck in.. In defence Ahmedhodzic is good enough for the Prem, coming forward Ndiaye is arguably one of the best player in the Championship. They also have plenty of experience in the side with the likes of Norwood, Fleck, Egan, Berge and the evergreen Billy Sharp available to which they have added good loan signings, particularly. Doyle and McAtee from Man City. Arguably with these two available next Saturday they could put out a stronger team than the one that played City at Wembley in the Cup. All this is not to mention two strikers who cost over £40m, Brewster and McBurnie and may or may not start. Jebbison was played against Man City .....PNE fans may not know him, he's rapid and only 19 and yet another Academy success (when will PNE ever learn?). Off the Pitch. The club is in financial meltdown...and should be yet another lesson to those who think PNE would benefit from a change in ownership. A long running legal dispute resulted in the current owner Prince Abdullah taking over (and acquiring 50|% of the shares for just £5m). However he appears to have handed control to his daughter and son-in-law. No money has been put into the club and long standing debt from transfers and a loss making hotel that was built on adjacent land has spiralled to the extent that there is no a transfer ban with the club continuing to owe the likes of Liverpool and Swansea. There's even been talk of administration and cash flow issues. One potential takeover has been subject to considerable EFL scrutiny and an accepted offer of £115m from an American businessman, Mauriss, is dragging on. The club;s future is very much in the balance.....promotion without the takeover and the Prem money will be swallowed. On the other hand promotion with the takeover and any backing and it might be a different matter. The Match. Blades have WBA to play on Wednesday night. Win and they are as good as up (Luton can not make up the goal difference). Will 3 matches in 6 days tell on them or is their squad strong enough to withstand this? Last time they went up all the players went out on the lash with fans and more than one was reported to be legless. Whatever I think it will be tough facing them and 30,000 fans. Quite simply we are going to have to be at our best to hold them.....they break with real intensity and can rapidly switch play. Set pieces are well rehearsed. We need to hold our positions , not to be drawn out and play on the break. Midfield is critical..whoever wins the midfield battle will win the game. If they get hold of the ball in the middle they have the forwards to pick out. The potential movement against Storey and Bauer and Hughes troubles me, hence the need to stop through balls. . 
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Post by Mooney on Apr 23, 2023 10:12:04 GMT
dawsonsjs, so we all hope they win midweek, get hammered and turn up in flip flops next weekend? 😂 Thanks for doing the thread. I absolutely agree about the two City loan players, especially McAtee who looks like a Rolls Royce of a footballer. Hoping for a miracle, but expecting nothing.
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Post by Bobby Ham's sarnie on Apr 23, 2023 12:40:00 GMT
If we play like we did yesterday, I give us no chance.
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Post by px6 on Apr 23, 2023 15:37:55 GMT
We’ve been here before. Remember when Birmingham needed to win to go up and we turned them over? And scrapped in the play offs. You never know.
But the plastics game showed we are well short of being a top 6 side. But a lot to build on for next year.
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Post by Bobby Ham's sarnie on Apr 23, 2023 23:26:44 GMT
Staying up next season will be an achievement it itself.
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Post by overseaspne on Apr 24, 2023 5:23:14 GMT
What a little ray of sunshine
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 24, 2023 8:34:35 GMT
We are going a bit off track here but, at the present time, I concur with Bobby. Strip out the loans and what have we got?
I keep saying the same thing about the way the club is run..all short-termism to keep us where we are and zero investment in the palying infrastructure. Say what you want about Rovers (and the debt they are carrying) but look at the number of Academy players they are bringing through, likewise with Sheffield Utd, for all their expenditure on transfers they still rely on the Academy to produce players like Jebbison.
As loan players are becoming increasingly expensive and as PNE has no option but to slash the wage bill (not least because of the current legal ownership and tighter financial rules) we are ina complete pickle as a consequence of the dinosaur's lack of judgment....yes, it has kept us in the Champ so far but it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain this status.
We are the proverbial million miles off being a potentially realistic play-off team ...and I've never got carried away thinking anything else.
I just hope Lowe gets his tactics right for this Saturday..if he tries going toe to toe we'll get hammered...apart from Woodman I doubt a single PNE player would get in the Blades team. I'm just hoping the Blades are up by then and have nothing to play for.
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Post by px6 on Apr 24, 2023 11:20:58 GMT
Ahh I remember the days we didn’t use the loan market enough. Now we use it to much.
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pne1971
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Post by pne1971 on Apr 24, 2023 11:30:46 GMT
Im hoping Blades beat the baggies mid week then have a good old knees up Thursday and Friday giving us a nice easy 3 points to keep the season alive.
been a strange season with so much discontent from the vocal minority, i repeat myself but of we had put 2 of 40 chances away against Hull and Rovrum in the 1st few games, those 4 points would have kept us top 6 virtually all season.
Personally when you think we have lost Ched, Riis, Browne, McCann for big chunks of the season i think we have competed quite well.
All this talk of loans keeping us going is a bit excessive, Alvaro been excellent, Cannon took 6 or 7 games to find his feet and has been a great addition especially since Ched went, Parrot missed half the season but hasnt exactly been any better than Seani in many ways.. So really 2 loan players have excelled.. the rest of the squad are "good/average mid table championship players.
i look at next year and think the contracted players form a good solid base:
2 keepers
JS LL PB BD AH are championship players be interesting if GC gets another 12 months
Potts and assuming RB stays means we again need 2 WB's but MO is off and a large wage released
BW AB AM RL are all championship quality, personally im hoping DJ stays another 2 years
Riis is the only option up front as im guessing Ched is done.
IMO another 2 or 3 loans, bring in a striker, maybe give Onomah a year or 2 and i see another year not flirting with the relegation positions and if the loans work out we look at the 5th and 6th positions..
Which imo is pretty successful for our budget, and being 50: being brought up on Geoff Twentyman hoof ball in the 4th division, believing that Brian Mooney and Ian Bogie were as good as Messi im pretty happy this season.
In the past ive seen so many saying "all they want to see is 100% effort" it irritates how so many seem apathetic and disillusioned with what's on offer! they are giving everything!!
Whether you like it or not, we are punching well above our weight and with 2 games to play we are 2 points off the play offs!!
I tend to think if youre not happy at the moment you maybe picked the wrong club to follow, maybe its time to shift over to Wrexham for a year or two.
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Post by daveoggy on Apr 24, 2023 11:33:00 GMT
Just be like us to win this one. COYW
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Post by thefutureisbrown on Apr 24, 2023 12:46:54 GMT
Im hoping Blades beat the baggies mid week then have a good old knees up Thursday and Friday giving us a nice easy 3 points to keep the season alive. been a strange season with so much discontent from the vocal minority, i repeat myself but of we had put 2 of 40 chances away against Hull and Rovrum in the 1st few games, those 4 points would have kept us top 6 virtually all season. Personally when you think we have lost Ched, Riis, Browne, McCann for big chunks of the season i think we have competed quite well. All this talk of loans keeping us going is a bit excessive, Alvaro been excellent, Cannon took 6 or 7 games to find his feet and has been a great addition especially since Ched went, Parrot missed half the season but hasnt exactly been any better than Seani in many ways.. So really 2 loan players have excelled.. the rest of the squad are "good/average mid table championship players. i look at next year and think the contracted players form a good solid base: 2 keepers JS LL PB BD AH are championship players be interesting if GC gets another 12 months Potts and assuming RB stays means we again need 2 WB's but MO is off and a large wage released BW AB AM RL are all championship quality, personally im hoping DJ stays another 2 years Riis is the only option up front as im guessing Ched is done. IMO another 2 or 3 loans, bring in a striker, maybe give Onomah a year or 2 and i see another year not flirting with the relegation positions and if the loans work out we look at the 5th and 6th positions.. Which imo is pretty successful for our budget, and being 50: being brought up on Geoff Twentyman hoof ball in the 4th division, believing that Brian Mooney and Ian Bogie were as good as Messi im pretty happy this season. In the past ive seen so many saying "all they want to see is 100% effort" it irritates how so many seem apathetic and disillusioned with what's on offer! they are giving everything!! Whether you like it or not, we are punching well above our weight and with 2 games to play we are 2 points off the play offs!! I tend to think if youre not happy at the moment you maybe picked the wrong club to follow, maybe its time to shift over to Wrexham for a year or two. I agree with most of this but if we lose Onomah and DJ as well as Fernandez and Cannon, we leave ourselves much work to do in the transfer market. Especially when you consider we'd need more cover at centre forward to replace Delap and Parrott, potentially another lwb to replace Brady and we STILL need a 2nd rwb. We've already proven we won't be spending any time soon and it's quite the rebuild without much to spend. Could all be irrelevant if we retain the 4 players mentioned but I can only see 1 maybe 2 being here. |
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 24, 2023 14:25:04 GMT
I think anybody would struggle to find a club where fans could not say 'if we had scored such and such goals, not conceded at so and so and hadn't had injuries to key players we would be near the top'.
We are two points off the play-offs and I am not happy (ST holder of nearly 60 years standing and I was there even when we had to seek re-election to the League and would have become a non-League club under current rules, I was there when we were getting beat by Whitley Bay in the Cup) because:
1. I recognise that the standard in the Championship this season has been the worst since it was formed
2. Until February the standard of football we played at home was dire.....Lowe had a worse home record than Westley
3. The only reason we are where we are is because of the teams we have played this year and from whom we have taken points have all been in the lower half of the division and it is Cannon's goals that have helped us collect points
4. Because we are not producing our own players we have had to rely on loan players to shore up the squad...look ast it, four of them in the starting line up against Rovers and another one coming on. Where would we be without the loans?
5. I recognise that such short-termism is increasingly becoming unaffordable and leaves us in a pickle for next season.......requiring 5 loans to replace these plus new players for anyone else who leaves such as DJ. And there isn't the money there for quality signings (believe it or not the Rovers side, with Academy players coming through) has a smaller wage bill than PNE).
6. I don't rate the manager...I think his game management is particularly poor. He got lucky last saturday but only because |Hedges cocked up.
7. I recognsie that as the club is available at the right price I recognise that no way will there be appropriate investment in an academy that takes years to produce results.
The only thing that will save us from another Boro type thrashing on Saturday is Utd getting promoted on Wednesday , going on the lash and having nothing to play for.
And if the club was run better with a higher standard of recruitmernt, long-term planning and a higher grade academy, and a decent level of commercial income (Rovers is 5 times higher, Burnley 16 times) it need not be like this.
I am not taken in by a misleading League position because I can see betyond this.
None of this will stop me from being there on Saturday and behind the team on the pitch or from renewing my ST but I'm under no illusion as to where the club is going.
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Apr 26, 2023 6:30:42 GMT
Hoping for a Sheff Utd win tonight.
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Post by walburghian on Apr 26, 2023 18:11:51 GMT
I love masochists, who like a cold shower but always take a hot one. So they like going to watch North End lose, so that they have something to complain about. I take things just as they are - we are not the best team, most of the time our players work their socks off even when we lose. Despite all that week are in a position to challenge for Promotion - and the Manager is carp! Come on you Lillywhites, we want you to succeed against all the odds - Bleakpool did it & so8 can we. I have nothing to complain about, we are where we are.
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Post by ginagee on Apr 26, 2023 19:17:49 GMT
Hoping for a Sheff Utd win tonight. Totally agree Get them in their flip flops Saturday owt can happen. |
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 26, 2023 20:06:35 GMT
At the moment all Baggies.....promotion nerves.
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Post by ginagee on Apr 26, 2023 20:18:59 GMT
Sheffield Utd 1 WBA 0
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 26, 2023 20:28:32 GMT
Yes, two good players combine...Ndiaye and Berge.Let's hope it stays this way.
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Post by Mooney on Apr 26, 2023 21:08:18 GMT
And now the Blades can go out on the lash.
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 26, 2023 21:12:00 GMT
Be interesting to see their line up for Saturday...I expect many changes now. .
(Credit their fans..full house and not one went on the pitch after the final whistle instead letting the players walk around the pitch).
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 26, 2023 21:31:11 GMT
Blades will want to celebrate in style on Saturday.
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Post by ginagee on Apr 27, 2023 19:32:33 GMT
Who would have thought, still something to play for with 2 games to go …. Embrace and Enjoy ( see you at Wembley  ) Got a Blades mate who lives in Dublin, flew out for last nights game and stayed over, his words, after the game ‘lads looked like they were on a 5 day bender’ 🙏🤞🙏🤞🤣 |
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Post by PNE From Afar on Apr 28, 2023 17:13:35 GMT
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Post by walburghian on Apr 28, 2023 20:06:31 GMT
Never thought I would be cheering for the Donkey-Lashers but come on you Tangerines! Beat Millwall, one less to worry about. Hopefully ShefffUtd are still on a Bender!
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 29, 2023 7:57:15 GMT
Safe journey to all travellers today.
Bring home the 3 points.
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Post by Mooney on Apr 29, 2023 8:01:55 GMT
Back to cricket for us today. Had to call time on my playing days due to the ‘full thickness chondral loss’ on the articular cartilage, too much risk attached. Let’s see if I am a good watcher! I know there will be many laps of the pitch carried out!
3 points today! COYW.
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Apr 29, 2023 11:24:29 GMT
It is a very warm day here in Sheffield...best day of the year, so far....Blades fans are out for a celebration. Hope we've come for a win.
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Apr 29, 2023 11:53:37 GMT
Traffic bad apparently
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Post by px6 on Apr 29, 2023 13:01:24 GMT
Enjoy the lashers relegation doo guys. Bring back 3 points 🥕🥕
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Post by px6 on Apr 29, 2023 13:18:17 GMT
Never mind, ledsons starting 😂
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