It starts today!

Absolutely starts now we’re safe. No big bucks just work much smarter. Squad still too big.

It won't start until PR leaves.

Too sensible for us

Sorry Sup, you've lost me.

I want us to go out and win as many games as possible.
No messing about with the squad.
The next 8 games will determine the start of next season.

Afar: Have to disagree don't want total changes but with nothing to play for would like to see a couple of the youth team each week either starting or at least a decent time on as sub not the 5 bloody minutes most subs seem to get these days we need to have a look at just who if any can step up in a competitive match not pre season friendlies that mean nothing it is fairly clear already that some of the regular subs are just not good enough

Welsh had the ability to do this, I don't think Brown Leads the team never mind talk to players around him. The only player we hear talking to others is Evans and Woodman.

If we are to blood these young lads we need to be supportive of them on the field and the players have a strong role to play in that.

None of the younger players who have nade debuts so far nor the youth team look like having Championship potrntial to me....with one exception, Mawene. Need to give him game time...and I don't mean 10 minutes at the end of a match, I mean put him in the starting 11 for 3 or 4 games, even the rest of the season.

As for 'starting now' reality is that Prem clubs won't release loans until the season starts and agents will be telling p=layers not to sign anything until it's evident that there isn't anything else on offer. Our season will start in Sept.

And unfortunately we are stuck with contracted players who are nothing like good enough. Given the slashed wage bill the most we can hope for is more of the same with regards to the League position but that's OK by me as long as we don't have to suffer the same dross football.

Daws I think your contradicting yourself a little you correctly say that half the players we have are not championship standard but you have also championed in the past the lack of help given to our youth players I don't see how you can judge a young player on ten minutes with the first team or when playing with lads in the youth team that are struggling at that level we now have the opportunity to give some of them a good period of time to judge them honestly

Metaphorically ‘todays game aside’ what I tried to relate was a real and forthright conversation at the top level that what we are doing as a club is not working. Getting players etc and being told by Dawson et Al is frankly insulting my intelligence.

'Today's game aside' is literal, it's not a metaphor.

Given Evans retirement and Riis who suspect will not play before Christmas we will need at least 4 forwards in next season and as we know they don't come cheap highly impressed with Morgan who played against us on Saturday, more than decent however will need someone in the Evans mould with experience
Also slightly left field literally if we need a left wing back James McLean forget all the baggage that comes with him, he is a great crosser of a ball and will give 100% all the time yeplikely to start an argument in an empty room but highly experienced player.
As for this season it would be great to blood youngsters ut we have gameas against QPR, Millwall and Sheff U plus the bog dwellers from Ewood which have issues riding on them at both end of the table so playing youngsters is a no no.
The games at Swansea and the last game against Sunderland perfect opportunitie to lob a couple of kids in

Tin hat on.
Should we be looking at someone like Jerry Yates?
Grafter. 13 championship goals and 6 assists.
Played 40 games.
He’s heading for league one. One year on his contract.

I’d say so, but imagine a few clubs higher in the pecking order might be interested.

Similar situation and stats to Cauley Woodrow from Barnsley who ended up at Luton. Who I had down as having a good season, but he’s only scored 1 in 23 when I’ve looked it up.