PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 15:58:16 GMT
FT 0-2
2 mistakes cost us a point.
Mcann going off? why?
Alvero isn't the answer. Last 15 mins chasing a game maybe.
Sheff utd will be top 6 this season, easily.
Supporters losing faith in Lowe isnt a good sign...
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 16:00:10 GMT
3 points off a relegation place! 3 points off the play offs |
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Post by [email protected] on Sept 17, 2022 16:02:52 GMT
3 points off a relegation place! 3 points off the play offs Where are the goals going to come from for those 3 points? Send 🦜 back asap, offers nothing, no better than Maguire |
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 16:03:13 GMT
On a plus point, Lindsay , storey and hughes are looking class.
Lindsay future captain material.
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Post by [email protected] on Sept 17, 2022 16:05:59 GMT
On a plus point, Lindsay , storey and hughes are looking class. Lindsay future captain material. They conceded 2 |
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 16:12:16 GMT
On a plus point, Lindsay , storey and hughes are looking class. Lindsay future captain material. They conceded 2 A mix upo between Whiteman and ? plus a horrendous ball from woodman. Not their fault, ... |
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 16:26:19 GMT
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Sept 17, 2022 16:43:03 GMT
I need a break from watching that guff.
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superiorno1pne
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Post by superiorno1pne on Sept 17, 2022 16:43:08 GMT
Spaniel pure class however their defence to much nous for our strikers their no 8 was quality Storey and centre back played very well. You don’t score you don’t win games it is that simple. I actually thought we played pretty well McCann getting better we look fit and sharp and bags of effort we are a mid table team too good to go down but not good enough to go up epitomises the club to be honest from the boardroom to the concourse.
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Post by [email protected] on Sept 17, 2022 16:45:03 GMT
Spaniel pure class however their defence to much nous for our strikers their no 8 was quality Storey and centre back played very well. You don’t score you don’t win games it is that simple. I actually thought we played pretty well McCann getting better we look fit and sharp and bags of effort we are a mid table team too good to go down but not good enough to go up epitomises the club to be honest from the boardroom to the concourse. Obviously the wine hasn’t kicked in yet 😃 |
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Post by deepdaleoldun on Sept 17, 2022 17:07:15 GMT
We are only 3 points from the playoffs but if any deluded fans start looking up there the only thing they will get is Virtigo its pretty simple at the moment our goal ratio is 1 every 3 games and that is certain relegation if something doesnt change system - players- manager who made 5 changes but left Riis on baffles me
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Post by tommy on Sept 17, 2022 17:18:54 GMT
Next three games are likely to be key. All are difficult and probable defeats. That would put the cat among the pigeons.
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Post by NobbyDawson on Sept 17, 2022 17:26:11 GMT
Spaniel pure class however their defence to much nous for our strikers their no 8 was quality Storey and centre back played very well. You don’t score you don’t win games it is that simple. I actually thought we played pretty well McCann getting better we look fit and sharp and bags of effort we are a mid table team too good to go down but not good enough to go up epitomises the club to be honest from the boardroom to the concourse. Obviously the wine hasn’t kicked in yet 😃 Riis and Parrot haven't kicked in neither. Could be cruel and say that Parrot is reminding me of the Monty Python sketch |
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Post by thefutureisbrown on Sept 17, 2022 17:26:52 GMT
I'm not bothered about losing to Sheff U. They are a good side with good players and depth. I am really disappointed in how we lost, having been in control of the game for large portions of the first half and even the start of the 2nd half.
How we don't do better from some of the positions we find ourselves in beggars belief. We won the ball in great places and had advantage in numbers counter attacking and just made bad decisions or executed with poor quality.
We can't score so need to stop going behind in games too, and what a pair of soft goals to concede. 1st looked to me like Woodman should have shouted for Storey to either let it run or even Woodman come get it himself. And the 2nd, Woodman again? Awful pass to Hughes... Just play it on the deck don't ping it into his midrift in thst position. Game died a death after the subs and crowd reaction said it all.. Not good enough.
Even if Riis is having a stinker (which he was), I'd sooner keep him on than bring Ched on. If anyone thinks we're going anywhere when we are relying in Evans as a super sub then think again.
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Post by thefutureisbrown on Sept 17, 2022 17:27:22 GMT
Obviously the wine hasn’t kicked in yet 😃 Riis and Parrot haven't kicked in neither. Could be cruel and say that Parrot is reminding me of the Monty Python sketch Reminds me of Will Keane. |
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Post by px6 on Sept 17, 2022 17:55:42 GMT
Calling for the managers head is absolute nonsense. We’re not a million miles away. Need to sign a striker and RB, everybody knows it.
RL took Ali off because ‘he’s covered a lot of ground’. Well yea that’s why he’s best centre mid we have. Didn’t look fatigued to me. Keep your best players on the pitch.
But what do we expect when we spend next to nothing? Don’t think the Hemmings family are as invested as Trevor was, and he barely spent the cash either. We’re going no where unfortunately. Top half would be an over achieving.
Riis useless aswell. Thought I’d slip that in.
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 17, 2022 18:00:51 GMT
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Post by markos50 on Sept 17, 2022 18:33:48 GMT
Remember he does not sign them .....maybe he is one and that's why. No faith in the guy. I think many on the town end thought the same. |
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Post by themaclad on Sept 17, 2022 18:34:16 GMT
First half we played all right apart from the usual lack of putting the ball into the net, we gifted them both goals and as for the substitutions dear oh dear none of them worked.
They bring on Sharp 240 plus goals we bring on Ched and Maguire 1 goal between them in two seasons.
The fans are entitled their opinions booing, Lowe is under pressure to sort this out and given we have 10 games in the next two months he needs to sort it quick
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Sept 17, 2022 19:49:38 GMT
Does Lowe know what he is doing?
First half I thought that we were the better side even if we never looked like scoring and the set pieces were poor. (Why would we look like scoring when continuing to play the same system and persisting with Riis and Parrot?. Riis was appalling throughout...dreadful decision making, and constantly took one touch too many and lost the ball).
Undone by a complete cock up...Storey leaving the ball to Whiteman who had his back to players and tried to play the ball instead of just wacking it clear.
Second half we were undone by Lowe and a Woodman cock up.
NOT ONCE have I seen any substitutions made by Lowe change the course or outcome of a game...on the contrary we usually lose our shape and play worse. By all means take off Riis (should never have started) but what was he thinking of taking off McCann and Fernandez?
To then make matters worse by bringing on another two subs simply smacked of desperation.
Until there is a change of shape and personnel at the front there are no reasons to anticipate any different outcomes.
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Post by Mooney on Sept 17, 2022 21:19:09 GMT
Calling for the managers head is absolute nonsense. We’re not a million miles away. Need to sign a striker and RB, everybody knows it. RL took Ali off because ‘he’s covered a lot of ground’. Well yea that’s why he’s best centre mid we have. Didn’t look fatigued to me. Keep your best players on the pitch. But what do we expect when we spend next to nothing? Don’t think the Hemmings family are as invested as Trevor was, and he barely spent the cash either. We’re going no where unfortunately. Top half would be an over achieving. Riis useless aswell. Thought I’d slip that in. My issue here is the comment from Lowe saying Ali had covered 8-9k already… I did 16 in less than 90 minutes this morning and I reckon McKante is fitter than a 50 year old with a dodgy knee! Having said that I think the booing of the subs is unforgivable. Very poor form. |
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Post by px6 on Sept 17, 2022 22:10:51 GMT
Calling for the managers head is absolute nonsense. We’re not a million miles away. Need to sign a striker and RB, everybody knows it. RL took Ali off because ‘he’s covered a lot of ground’. Well yea that’s why he’s best centre mid we have. Didn’t look fatigued to me. Keep your best players on the pitch. But what do we expect when we spend next to nothing? Don’t think the Hemmings family are as invested as Trevor was, and he barely spent the cash either. We’re going no where unfortunately. Top half would be an over achieving. Riis useless aswell. Thought I’d slip that in. My issue here is the comment from Lowe saying Ali had covered 8-9k already… I did 16 in less than 90 minutes this morning and I reckon McKante is fitter than a 50 year old with a dodgy knee! Having said that I think the booing of the subs is unforgivable. Very poor form. 8-9k is some going in 60 minutes. Think the average for a full 90 is 7k. Keep him on, see how he does. Noticeable drop in performance when he’s not there. |
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Post by Phantom Winger on Sept 17, 2022 22:50:36 GMT
Our next chance to win a home game will be October. The season started in July.
Massive issues. The manager does not know his best 11 and his formation isn’t working. He can’t staff it. He’s fixed on it but he can’t staff it.
Defence fair enough very decent job. If we could score the goals against isn’t an issue. People are getting frustrated with midfield and attack.
The front two don’t work. Parrott isn’t a striker and Riis seems incapable of effective decision making or team play. The back up is inadequate. To be fair to Maguire he tried to bring people into the play.
What’s going on in midfield? We haven’t a clue on the right balance to mount effective attacking play. Whiteman is too deep and to play that role effectively he needs the passing range of the wonderful Paul Gallagher which evades him. Lateral and backward passing seems order of the day. Would prefer Ledson who can thread a pass. Johnson looks a shadow of himself while it’s hard to nail Browne down to one position. Where’s Woodman? He can find a pass and has a shot in him. McCann is the predictable early substitution no matter how is playing. Sometimes half time. In truth he’s one player who keeps us competing higher up the pitch. He is competitive and can be creative.
The WB situation is frustrating to say the least. We have one at a push. Though the system demands them. Potts has done well in my opinion but could be moved inside. Brady - talented without doubt but I don’t see where he best fits in. Alvaro super talented but we’re never going to get 35 games out of him. I can see him doing a job on the right because Brady doesn’t work there but again it’s square pegs.
Storey, Hughes, Lindsay and Woodman have been decent.
So what’s the solution? In my opinion change the formation to best suit the players we have. The problem we have is that we can’t fully staff many formations. It’s a right pickle. We have no RFB nor RWB.
My goodness me it could be a long season.
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Post by NobbyDawson on Sept 18, 2022 6:46:52 GMT
Calling for the managers head is absolute nonsense. We’re not a million miles away. Need to sign a striker and RB, everybody knows it. RL took Ali off because ‘he’s covered a lot of ground’. Well yea that’s why he’s best centre mid we have. Didn’t look fatigued to me. Keep your best players on the pitch. But what do we expect when we spend next to nothing? Don’t think the Hemmings family are as invested as Trevor was, and he barely spent the cash either. We’re going no where unfortunately. Top half would be an over achieving. Riis useless aswell. Thought I’d slip that in. My issue here is the comment from Lowe saying Ali had covered 8-9k already… I did 16 in less than 90 minutes this morning and I reckon McKante is fitter than a 50 year old with a dodgy knee! Having said that I think the booing of the subs is unforgivable. Very poor form. Agree with the point about McCann. I kept looking over at Lowe. When he didn't have his chin in his hands he was frequently engaging with the "statistician" seated next to him. Surely data analysis is there to assist ,not to dictate. A supposed tiring McCann was still on his game (and was rightly given our MoM). None of the substitutions really improved things. PNE now have 2 weeks for the legs to recover unless McCann was being saved for international duty ! I hope not. |
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Post by dawsonsjs on Sept 18, 2022 7:39:10 GMT
As far as I perceived Mooney, the booing was largely for the ridiculous decision to take off McCann and Fernandez more than for the subs being brought on, although admittedly the introduction of Evans was not exactly greeted with The Hallelujah Chorus.
Agree with almost all your comments PW...don't understand one re not getting 35 games out of Alvaro...why not?
Whilst during the summer the priority must have been to get the wage bill down (you can't run a club with a £22m wage bill on a £12m turnover. Latest decision to pay off Harrop, nobody else coming in for him, only adds weight to this) we are paying for the the failure to produce a more balanced squad. An unbalanced one has been evident for too long so why has it not been addressed?
Ridsdale has a lot of questions to answer...not that there is any point in asking him.
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 18, 2022 7:51:42 GMT
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Post by PNE From Afar on Sept 18, 2022 7:55:31 GMT
Im surprised so many are questioning the subbing of Alvero.
First half we was caught in possession multiple times and 3 corners in a row that didn't beat the first man. Tricky feet going forward when we are chasing a game, yes, but not ready at this level for a full 90 mins.
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Post by pne1971 on Sept 18, 2022 8:05:12 GMT
I think I was the only one in the ground that agreed with bringing off McCann and Alvarez.
Neither were creating anything going forward and imo we needed to get DJ on.
I think we need to change something to try and get some goals, I’m starting to think maybe we need to try not playing Whitman, speed things up, Riis needs the ball over the top into space..
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Post by dawsonsjs on Sept 18, 2022 8:17:29 GMT
Afar, whilst it did take Fernandez time to get into the game (during which he did lose the ball and his corners were poor) once he's settled in he saw a lot of the ball and constantly took the game forward.
You can't fault midfielders for not creating anything when you have nobody running the channels...Parrott too deep and Riis too static......and there's nobody getting in behind defenders. Did Potts put a single cross in yesterday?
I said before the game that (and nothing particularly insightful, everyone can see it) that the formstion and personnel at the front are not working. A universal characteristic of insanity is inflexibly doing the same thing over and over while hoping for different results.
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