Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 26, 2022 9:42:17 GMT
Bigger crowds, positive signings and the RL feel good factor.
Yep we’ve bought in hook, line and sinker but where will we finish?
The bookies, on average, seem to think we are in for a solid bottom half finish.
I would go against that and predict top 10. Top 6 would be magnificent but I’m going top 10. Progress right?
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PNE From Afar
Preston North End
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Post by PNE From Afar on Jul 26, 2022 10:10:04 GMT
Top 6, only way to start a season is in a positive way!
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 26, 2022 10:33:02 GMT
Some late signings may tip us towards top 6 but my worry is defence and goalkeeper.
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Post by thefutureisbrown on Jul 26, 2022 11:46:00 GMT
Some late signings may tip us towards top 6 but my worry is defence and goalkeeper. Agreed on the defence. Back 3 is closer to bottom 6 than top 6 imo. Whichever combination of players you use. |
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 26, 2022 11:48:38 GMT
The lad from United may help but he’s an U23 player. We’ll see.
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Post by px6 on Jul 26, 2022 12:20:54 GMT
The competition gets harder every year. We’ve finished 10 with weaker teams. So why not top 6?
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 26, 2022 13:45:32 GMT
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Post by Bobby Ham's sarnie on Jul 26, 2022 23:42:34 GMT
I'm feeling optimistic this season.
I think we will stay up.
Hopefully, I will see them win this season.
They lost every game I went on last season.
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Post by px6 on Jul 27, 2022 5:39:37 GMT
Hope you didn’t get a season ticket Bobby!
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dawsonsjs
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 27, 2022 13:11:47 GMT
At best a mid-table squad. Lack of real pace everywhere. And a manager trying to make players play a system rather than the system suiting the players he's got.
I'm happy with the keeper (any cf with Iversen unfair)..it's what's in front of him that concerns me.
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Phantom Winger
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 27, 2022 13:25:49 GMT
We need a right wing back desperately unless we just use a utility player there - Browne Potts McCann. What’s up with Olosunde?
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Post by thefutureisbrown on Jul 27, 2022 13:59:07 GMT
At best a mid-table squad. Lack of real pace everywhere. And a manager trying to make players play a system rather than the system suiting the players he's got. I'm happy with the keeper (any cf with Iversen unfair)..it's what's in front of him that concerns me. Agreed on the back 3. Not good enough and will ultimately be the reason we don't take it up a level this year. I think we have a decent amount of pace, though. Woodburn looks quick to me although admittedly I've yet to see him in person. Riis and DJ we know can shift. Bambo is rapid and the new lad from United looks athletic from what I've seen too. I assume any right wing back and striker we are looking at will also have similar qualities. I expect us to be good/exciting going forwards but I've seen far too many calamatous performances from all 6 of the players competing for the CB positions to have any confidence in them. |
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 27, 2022 14:51:29 GMT
McCann is also excellent at tracking back.
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PNE From Afar
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Post by PNE From Afar on Feb 15, 2023 23:58:23 GMT
Looking at the optimistic votes pre season and people want the manager sacked. What happened?
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Post by makemineapint on Feb 16, 2023 7:28:20 GMT
Looking at the optimistic votes pre season and people want the manager sacked. What happened? Possibly it's because he has been found out to be not very good? But! when you add that to other parts of the jigsaw that leave a lot be desired it doesn't exactly fill a person with joy and happiness on their visits to Deepdale. At a loss as to where we go from here, but something needs to change. |
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Post by Phantom Winger on Feb 16, 2023 9:07:08 GMT
Looking at the optimistic votes pre season and people want the manager sacked. What happened? Possibly it's because he has been found out to be not very good? But! when you add that to other parts of the jigsaw that leave a lot be desired it doesn't exactly fill a person with joy and happiness on their visits to Deepdale. At a loss as to where we go from here, but something needs to change. As usual a great post. |
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Post by Mooney on Feb 16, 2023 12:20:42 GMT
Phantom Winger, PNE From Afar, thefutureisbrown, px6, Bobby Ham's sarnie, dawsonsjs, makemineapint, For me the key issue is that Ryan Lowe just talks too much... Start of the season it was all 'attacking brand' and sick of being a mid table team, he's no interest in settling for that, we'll gatecrash the top 6 etc etc. Today he's saying we'll 'never' be where some of the supporters want us to be. He contradicts himself constantly and I'm yet to see him take any responsibility for any of our poor performances. Last night we were scabby and got an undeserved point, last ten minutes was entertaining stuff. Prior to the card (ie, with all our players on the pitch) we managed one shot. Not even one shot on target. One shot. Dearie me. Lowe has promised much and delivered little. I don't think he can turn this round, sorry PNE From Afar, I have lost faith in the manager. Too many players nowhere near the levels they're capable of. Players going backwards in many ways. Ledson for example was our POTY in the Covid season - now he can't seem to pass water. RL won't be here next season, I'm fairly certain of that, so unless the board fear we could still go down, he may well stay, but I'm thinking we may well see a corner flag soon.
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Post by makemineapint on Feb 16, 2023 13:38:03 GMT
There was no more a big headed manager than Brian Clough, difference being he annoyingly backed it up.
Maybe the fact he had Peter Taylor as his sidekick helped him a lot.
Maybe if we had got Schumacher also things would have been different, who knows.
Maybe if Hemmings sells up, the new bods sack off Ridders, Marsh becomes the new Schumacher and PNE become the team we all want.
Thats a lot of maybe's but the maybe that bothers me is that if something doesn't change soon, maybe we will be relegated.
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Feb 16, 2023 14:36:05 GMT
Phantom Winger, PNE From Afar, thefutureisbrown, px6, Bobby Ham's sarnie, dawsonsjs, makemineapint, For me the key issue is that Ryan Lowe just talks too much... Start of the season it was all 'attacking brand' and sick of being a mid table team, he's no interest in settling for that, we'll gatecrash the top 6 etc etc. Today he's saying we'll 'never' be where some of the supporters want us to be. He contradicts himself constantly and I'm yet to see him take any responsibility for any of our poor performances. Last night we were scabby and got an undeserved point, last ten minutes was entertaining stuff. Prior to the card (ie, with all our players on the pitch) we managed one shot. Not even one shot on target. One shot. Dearie me. Lowe has promised much and delivered little. I don't think he can turn this round, sorry PNE From Afar, I have lost faith in the manager. Too many players nowhere near the levels they're capable of. Players going backwards in many ways. Ledson for example was our POTY in the Covid season - now he can't seem to pass water. RL won't be here next season, I'm fairly certain of that, so unless the board fear we could still go down, he may well stay, but I'm thinking we may well see a corner flag soon. Wigan game is surely huge for Lowe. Got away with one last night, awful 1st half with the grumblings starting, lucky we held it to 0-0 to avoid boos at HT. Red card and some iffy ref decisions turned the crowds attention elsewhere. As stated on the other site, he is reactive to a mistake rather than tactics. Pulled Potts off who was doing ok after making a mistake, puts Woodburn on which results in changing Brownes position and then minutes later the goal comes from a cross down that side. Tough game on Saturday with Hull in decent form, turn up with this flat boring football and find ourselves behind against Wigan and it really could get nasty on the stands. I don’t even think a win on Saturday helps him with the home fan base but will probs keep him from the chop from the hierarchy. |
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Post by dawsonsjs on Feb 16, 2023 15:01:27 GMT
On the way up to Morecambe Bay yesterday morning stopped off for a cup of tea and had a chat with an 'insider' (wouldn't wish to put the person in an invidious position). There's certainly unrest in the camp...senior players accused of being complacent, players not buying into Lowe. You will note that he starts every post match comment with what he has done, what he said at half time etc. It appears he is trying to get a younger team around him hence all the talk of spirit in the camp. However as long as he keeps on swapping and changing players, making subs based on players errors, he's not going to get anywhere. You don't get the lack of discipline ,as shown by Evans and Whiteman and Brown'e post Turf Moor comments, when a team is all pulling together. No chance of him going though unless there is a disaster. It's all about surviving with a younger and less well paid squad. Only note I have of sympathy for Lowe is that he's not got what he wanted by way of players in....he's getting it from all sides, above and the gate. He may be a carp manager but it's certainly a difficult job.
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Feb 16, 2023 15:27:04 GMT
On the way up to Morecambe Bay yesterday morning stopped off for a cup of tea and had a chat with an 'insider' (wouldn't wish to put the person in an invidious position). There's certainly unrest in the camp...senior players accused of being complacent, players not buying into Lowe. You will note that he starts every post match comment with what he has done, what he said at half time etc. It appears he is trying to get a younger team around him hence all the talk of spirit in the camp. However as long as he keeps on swapping and changing players, making subs based on players errors, he's not going to get anywhere. You don't get the lack of discipline ,as shown by Evans and Whiteman and Brown'e post Turf Moor comments, when a team is all pulling together. No chance of him going though unless there is a disaster. It's all about surviving with a younger and less well paid squad. Only note I have of sympathy for Lowe is that he's not got what he wanted by way of players in....he's getting it from all sides, above and the gate. He may be a carp manager but it's certainly a difficult job. I do worry for us next season, football is boring at the minute and there’s rumours on the other site of budget cutting of 5 million. DJ is clearly off and downed tools, unrest in Browne and Potts last night at subs/positional changes. If you get a split in the camp then you’re in trouble. It’s one thing trying to surround yourself with your lads (Woodburn etc) but when unhappy players are still contracted and around the building then problems arise. |
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Post by walburghian on Feb 16, 2023 20:05:56 GMT
Not party to any gossip but it is obvious that DJ's face does not fit. Wouldn't be so bad if we had someone to replace him. Who? Is RL " biting his nose off to spite his face?" As to next Season, this seems like the last Season that the Hemmings will underwrite PNE. On that basis, the Wages will have to come down in order for a new Owner to be happy that they don't have to do the same. We all understand this and it should mean the dismissal of our expensive and incompetent Chairperson. That alone will give some latitude to pay Players. In the order of things, who have we got that is worth the princely sum of £500k p.a.? We have at least 2 earning £850k p.a. Get real, pay players what they are worth. Get rid of those that cannot earn their wages and we can still survive in this League. Plenty of Teams pay less in Wages than we do. Get real Craig & pay the Players what they are worth, & include the Chairperson in this regard - unless you want him to Bankrupt another Club. Yours
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Post by walburghian on Feb 16, 2023 21:39:23 GMT
Just an aside, under this heading, when we are successful, there are many Posters. Currently the activity is virtually dead. That, in itself, speaks volumes for our current situation. Not blaming anyone but, when there is nothing to talk about, this site has nothing to offer. Personally, I do not like the fact that no-one cares about PNE, They've been my one & only Club for 79yrs. Please keep on pushing & wanting our Club to prosper- even if it is only in the Championship. We're PNE through & through, accepting the hard times, living with the Manager's apparent short comings etc. No postings to me smacks of apathy & it would be sad for us to sink to the levels of Oldham , for example, because no-one cared enough. Come on you Whites  |
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Post by px6 on Feb 17, 2023 11:55:03 GMT
Sick of all the moaners Walb.
When did we become such entitled bunch of whingers?
At the start of the season, if you was offered 6 points off the play offs in February you’d of probably taken that. Yet here we’re trying to hound another manager out for doing his level best when we have little chance.
What happened to getting behind your team good or bad? Doesn’t existing now.
Let’s hope the new guy says we’re going to aim to avoid relegation, then we’d all be delighted with the current situation.
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Post by makemineapint on Feb 17, 2023 12:31:55 GMT
Football is part of the entertainment business, people pay good money to be entertained.
I suppose that some people will keep going to the same same restaurant no matter how crap the food gets.
There may be many reasons why the food quality has deteriated but the wise owner will endeavour to put things right before he loses all his customers.
People get a bit fed up, have a moan, we can't all be perfect.
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Post by px6 on Feb 17, 2023 19:08:21 GMT
I’ve never been one for buying food at the ground, but football fans complaining about the food? If you want good food, go to a restaurant. Or bring a few butties!
Every ground is a total rip off and always has been.
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Post by walburghian on Feb 17, 2023 20:54:34 GMT
I’ve never been one for buying food at the ground, but football fans complaining about the food? If you want good food, go to a restaurant. Or bring a few butties! Every ground is a total rip off and always has been. In spades. I would not eat the carp At PNE after having many burnt pies. Likewise, if you want a pint in the ground, there is nowhere else-so you pay it or forgo the pint. I don't have a problem with this. Try eating pies & pints@ Pool or ManU. |
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Post by deepdaleoldun on Feb 17, 2023 22:58:08 GMT
px6,I think you may have misinterpreted makemineapint, comparison and the pie I had at the Tottenham game was to be honest not to bad probably better than the performance
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Post by makemineapint on Feb 18, 2023 8:09:07 GMT
px6,I think you may have misinterpreted makemineapint, comparison and the pie I had at the Tottenham game was to be honest not to bad probably better than the performance Maybe it was lost in the analogy? PNE at the moment is a poorly run football club, there are so many things that are wrong at the moment to squeeze into one post. The league position is on unstable ground due to some rather fortuitous away results. The financing of the club has been fair but has been unbelievably poorly utilised. The management of the team has gone from worse to bad to worse again. A visit to Deepdale these days is a frustrating and demoralising event. If you look objectedly, it seems unless a buyer can be found that is prepared to take the club in a different direction things will only get worse. The thing that surprises me the most is not that people are moaning but that people are moaning about people who are moaning. |
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Post by NobbyDawson on Feb 18, 2023 9:10:23 GMT
"Frustrating and demoralising"...why, when I have options,I'm now choosing them over Deepdale.
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