Mickypne
Preston North End
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Post by Mickypne on Feb 20, 2021 17:08:27 GMT
Who do we replace him with guys? Genuine question 👍 This is the hard thing slc. I wouldn't have a clue. I think daws suggestion of Darren Moore wouldn't be the worse imo.
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Post by SLC on Feb 20, 2021 17:09:56 GMT
Who do we replace him with guys? Genuine question 👍 This is the hard thing slc. I wouldn't have a clue. I think daws suggestion of Darren Moore wouldn't be the worse imo. Is he Mccarthys number 2 mick?
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Post by walburghian on Feb 20, 2021 17:10:59 GMT
I've just completed the research into our performances over the past 12 months to 1st Feb 2020. We have played 56 competitive games and lost 50% of them.Its not exactly Relegation form yet but we are diving quickly in that direction. Also, we are now the 3rd worst Defence in this League behind Wycombe, who've beaten us easily twice, and the other is Huddersfield, whom we play next Saturday. You could point to the fact that we have lost our Goallie (arguably recruited better though) and Bauer plus Davies at CH and Daws' pal Fisher at RB. Without a pre-Season , it is difficult to organise a new Defence and that is just what we are seeing. I am not commenting upon the Manager until the end of the Season now.
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Post by ginagee on Feb 20, 2021 17:18:32 GMT
I really hope we are going nowhere!!!! ..... eyes now fixed on the bottom 6 now  NO PRIDE! NO PASSION! NO FIGHT! NO ONE FIGHTING FOR THE SHIRT!
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Post by px6 on Feb 20, 2021 17:25:14 GMT
Who do we replace him with guys? Genuine question 👍 This is the hard thing slc. I wouldn't have a clue. I think daws suggestion of Darren Moore wouldn't be the worse imo. My exact argument why sacking him might not be the best thing to do. There’s no one better out there. It’s a massive gamble. My pick would be Paul cook. But his record at this level isn’t exactly great. Bournemouth have asked to speak to Henry, wonder if he would fancy moving to preston?!
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Post by deepdaleoldun on Feb 20, 2021 17:25:16 GMT
SLC,Honestly dont know who would come but there are some good managers out there I have never made a secret out of the fact I dont rate AN since he first came but would have been only to happy to admit I was wrong and I did think for one season I may have been I dont like asking for a managers sacking but neither do I want to see us dragged into a relegation scrap and that is where I believe we are heading I recognise some of these players are probably not as good as we thought I just dont believe that we are getting the best out of them having said all this I dont honestly believe he will be going anywhere
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Mickypne
Preston North End
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Post by Mickypne on Feb 20, 2021 17:47:20 GMT
This is the hard thing slc. I wouldn't have a clue. I think daws suggestion of Darren Moore wouldn't be the worse imo. My exact argument why sacking him might not be the best thing to do. There’s no one better out there. It’s a massive gamble. My pick would be Paul cook. But his record at this level isn’t exactly great. Bournemouth have asked to speak to Henry, wonder if he would fancy moving to preston?! We're not paid to make them decisions but I can't see it getting any worse than what it is now. Barky sums Neil up for me. Decent player who doesn't look interested , as though he doesn't want to play for the manager. I said months ago i felt Neil wanted put but wanted sacking for a payday. Still feel that could be the case because of the comparison of his 1st 2 seasons to the last 13 month. Real chalk and cheese stuff.
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Post by BroughtonWhite on Feb 20, 2021 17:59:20 GMT
I lose track - wasn’t he a good manager last Friday?
A poor performance today - but not a 4-0 performance. It was never going to be our day from 1st minute joke of a penalty.
I don’t see any better options out there imo, we are exactly where most people would expect us to be - mid-table. No danger of relegation.
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Post by ProudPreston29 on Feb 20, 2021 18:06:47 GMT
I lose track - wasn’t he a good manager last Friday? A poor performance today - but not a 4-0 performance. It was never going to be our day from 1st minute joke of a penalty. I don’t see any better options out there imo, we are exactly where most people would expect us to be - mid-table. No danger of relegation. No we just played 1 of the two teams in worse form than us , and today we played the team in the best form
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Post by ProudPreston29 on Feb 20, 2021 18:08:02 GMT
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Post by nextownerofpne on Feb 20, 2021 18:11:20 GMT
There is no way TH is going to fork out to pay TH off so you might as well forget it . In any event he is as good as we are going to get . An has been managing this club with one hand tied behind his back . Can anyone blame him for not having a forward that is good enough at this level . How many more signings like Bayliss and Rils are we going to sign . We need players of the right quality now not gambles that may develop and line TH’s pockets in years to come. We have not had a forward good enough for the Champ since Nuge first time around, that was 15 years ago . TH would prefer to have £300k in the bank than keep Fisher until the end of the season that about says it all . All I read is that AN should be replaced, like any of this is his fault !! As I have said not only will that not happen... who exactly would want the job and they would do no better with the squad AN has been given . Let’s just concentrate on winning another 4 games this season and having no further upheavals.
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Feb 20, 2021 18:16:16 GMT
Yes there is a danger of relegation....complacent thinking there Broughton.
The teams at the bottom are collecting points faster than we are, keep up the performance we've seen this year, 3 points out of the last 15, and we'll be overtaken before Easter.
The joke in the first minute was a team seemingly unprepared for a kick off and going backwards....how many times now?
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Feb 20, 2021 18:20:42 GMT
If AN went and the job was advertised I would anticipate at least 70 to 80 applications! There are managers all over Europe who would love to be working here.
Fisher went because Fisher wanted to go (and he had been a liability for soem time).
Whilst we have L1 defenders there is still the basis of a decent squad..the problem is a manager who has lost the plot and can't get the best out of what he has got,
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Post by BroughtonWhite on Feb 20, 2021 18:27:29 GMT
Yes there is a danger of relegation....complacent thinking there Broughton. The teams at the bottom are collecting points faster than we are, keep up the performance we've seen this year, 3 points out of the last 15, and we'll be overtaken before Easter. The joke in the first minute was a team seemingly unprepared for a kick off and going backwards....how many times now? The thought of complacency did cross my mind as I wrote it - but I just don’t see us being near it. I look at the team now v the one that got relegated under Brown and it’s chalk and cheese. No wins in the next 3 and I may start to change my mind....
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Post by ProudPreston29 on Feb 20, 2021 18:28:26 GMT
Alan Browne has given up
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Post by px6 on Feb 20, 2021 18:41:49 GMT
Given up on the play offs. Last week we was in with a shout.
I think AB is just being a realist. We are not good enough for the play offs.
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superiorno1pne
Preston North End
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Post by superiorno1pne on Feb 20, 2021 18:45:19 GMT
AN must have something on the Riddler and Hemmings. That said the ball given back to the right back in the first 50 seconds pinged at him to go out of play for a throw in for their forward to cheat the ref. And good old Barkys control to gift the ball to them just after half time to make it 2 nil cannot ( or can it) be levelled at Neil? I do like our two new midfielders and the kid from Everton which may go in his favour if he is to stay.
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Post by SLC on Feb 20, 2021 18:52:24 GMT
Dawson, you say there are managers all over Europe that might fit the bill
Do you think any of these managers know what the championship league is all about? Mccarthy, he's been there, done that, he knows this league inside out. I'd be careful what you wish for
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dawsonsjs
Preston North End
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Post by dawsonsjs on Feb 20, 2021 20:28:09 GMT
We have never ever been in a with even half a shout of making the play-offs...we did have 3 decent defensive players before the New Year in Pearson, Fisher and Davies, now, today, we have been relying on Browne, NOT a rb (thought he was poor yet again ), Storey (not good enough), Lindsay (OK but obviously a mistake in him and lacks pace...any better than Hunts?) and Hughes (L1 standard) and without Ledson to replace Pearson / It' s no wonder it's a shambles.
As for European managers SLC I'd swap AN for Barnsley's guy any day.
We are likely to need 52 points to stay up this season....with this shower of a defence and AN running the show it is going to be a big ask.
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malteser
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Post by malteser on Feb 20, 2021 20:42:45 GMT
These performances and constant chopping and changing of players has been going on for a long time now. We are going backwards with AN in charge.
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Feb 20, 2021 22:31:06 GMT
I've just completed the research into our performances over the past 12 months to 1st Feb 2020. We have played 56 competitive games and lost 50% of them.Its not exactly Relegation form yet but we are diving quickly in that direction. Also, we are now the 3rd worst Defence in this League behind Wycombe, who've beaten us easily twice, and the other is Huddersfield, whom we play next Saturday. You could point to the fact that we have lost our Goallie (arguably recruited better though) and Bauer plus Davies at CH and Daws' pal Fisher at RB. Without a pre-Season , it is difficult to organise a new Defence and that is just what we are seeing. I am not commenting upon the Manager until the end of the Season now. Not defending today or our form overall but when did Wycombe easily beat us twice? They beat a much changed us in the cup (we rarely turn up in the cup these days) and we drew in the league.
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Feb 20, 2021 23:11:45 GMT
It’s the time now to settle on a side and stop piddling about. Players in players out it’s a mess. No time for excuses. You can’t after 4 years in charge. It’s your ship. Did AN want these players? If he did he should bloody well know what to do with them otherwise what’s the point? How many players are static or going backwards? The whole club needs a long hard look in the mirror. Not about money it’s about using the resources you have to the best advantage. We’re pretty wasteful. 2M signings who can’t get in the 11 or even in the match day squad. Come on NE wake up.
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Post by cumbrianpastyface on Feb 21, 2021 11:01:46 GMT
Who do we replace him with guys? Genuine question 👍 Cant see much point in changing the manager now tbh. What's clear is that AN doesnt know his best team which isnt helped by too many January transfers. Not a fan of the transfer window mid way through the season personally. I guess the answer to your question SLC is who is available and who will be able to do a job with the financial parameters we have avaialbe. Probably someone from the lower leagues as seems to be our recruitment process these days.....
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Post by Mooney on Feb 21, 2021 11:31:19 GMT
Who do we replace him with guys? Genuine question 👍 Cant see much point in changing the manager now tbh. What's clear is that AN doesnt know his best team which isnt helped by too many January transfers. Not a fan of the transfer window mid way through the season personally. I guess the answer to your question SLC is who is available and who will be able to do a job with the financial parameters we have avaialbe. Probably someone from the lower leagues as seems to be our recruitment process these days..... For me, AN stays, he’s had the rug pulled out with Davies, Pearo and Fisher leaving to be replaced by people unproven at this level and many who need time to settle in. To my mind, he should be given the time to develop something but I get that things have not been good for a while. For me, ironically enough, in patches yesterday we looked more lively than for some time. Less said about defending the better, but that’s what happens when a load of new players are thrown together, weak communications on the pitch and uncertainty. No way do we lose that 4-0 if Hunts plays. A massive if, but if we lose midweek and next weekend, the club may choose to look at moving him on, but in that position, would expect an interim manager rather than making a FT appointment. Said it before and will no doubt say it again, should the club pull the trigger, I’d go for Karl Robinson.
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pne1971
Preston North End
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Post by pne1971 on Feb 21, 2021 12:34:36 GMT
AN until next Xmas IMO. Another window and pre season with the players and new post covid financial football with fans, before we change unless of course we drop into the bottom 6. Anyone else hearing that we have sorted a deal with the Niambe rb lad from Plastics? If true I can see why there were no contract talks with Fisher
Re watched yesterday’s lowlights and the amount of bad luck/individual mistakes in one game makes it impossible to blame the management
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Feb 21, 2021 13:13:04 GMT
AN until next Xmas IMO. Another window and pre season with the players and new post covid financial football with fans, before we change unless of course we drop into the bottom 6. Anyone else hearing that we have sorted a deal with the Niambe rb lad from Plastics? If true I can see why there were no contract talks with Fisher Re watched yesterday’s lowlights and the amount of bad luck/individual mistakes in one game makes it impossible to blame the management I’d be very surprised if we sign Nyambe. Not seen an awful lot of him but was very impressed with him last season at Ewood.
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Feb 21, 2021 13:15:07 GMT
I think some have just read too much into the fact that he’s been left out of the rovers squad and sounds like he’s not signing a new deal plus the fact we are obviously going to be in the market for a RB.
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Phantom Winger
Preston North End
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Post by Phantom Winger on Feb 21, 2021 13:30:32 GMT
After four years a manager should be in a position to field his best team and know the best formation for that team. His team. On the transfer window, you should be able to manage that process too to cause minimal disruption even though I realise we’ve lost both Bens. Hunts classic example. Most seem to agree he’s added stability to the back four so AN manages the process by putting together a new back four. Result? some key stone cop defending and goals conceded. Scott Sinclair is the best natural finisher at the club IMO. He could not even get on as a second half sub during a 4-0 reversal. It’s nuts. I could go on and on but in any line of work if your ships going backwards after being in charge for four years there would be one or two eyebrows raised. Is that biased against or balanced? If biased please counter it with positives. I’m struggling. I think the players are surviving rather than thriving under AN.
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Mickypne
Preston North End
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Post by Mickypne on Feb 21, 2021 13:40:15 GMT
Sick to death of reading tripe. The majority of twitter want Neil gone but some still talk tripe. "Well.its transition time" "not Neil fault he lost 3 big players " " shoestring budget " blah blah ######## blah. Why can't these stupid idiots see that we've been bad for 13 months? Even when both bens and darnell were in the team, we were still tripe. Do these guys literally need Neil to go and bang their Mrs before they see the rubbish that's being offered. So glad Deepdale is shut because the atmosphere this season would have been awful. Pot him now.
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Post by px6 on Feb 21, 2021 14:00:33 GMT
Sick to death of reading tripe. The majority of twitter want Neil gone but some still talk tripe. "Well.its transition time" "not Neil fault he lost 3 big players " " shoestring budget " blah blah ######## blah. Why can't these stupid idiots see that we've been bad for 13 months? Even when both bens and darnell were in the team, we were still tripe. Do these guys literally need Neil to go and bang their Mrs before they see the rubbish that's being offered. So glad Deepdale is shut because the atmosphere this season would have been awful. Pot him now. Slightly off topic, but if you read any social media the night of the general election night you’d of thought Labour was going to win by a landslide. Completely wrong. Whether that’s the same with football is another question! Lol Just social media is not the start and end of everyone. AN is a deadman walking if you read Facebook/Twitter.
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