Returning spectators to Deepdale

I don't think anybody is denying that the balance is a difficult task px6 but I would maintain that measures to combat other forms of demand on the NHS and other public services are perfectly valid....generally we accept limited measures and indifferent intervention results. I am not saying it's right but that's the way it is. Wouldst the same amount of effort and resources put into other preventative interventions.

If people complain this government has only itself (and advisors)to blame for
- starting out with the nonsense of achieving herd immunity
- failing to follow up, indeed dropping, early tracking measures
- failing to meet testing targets
- saying the care/nursing homes would not be affected
- releasing NHS patients into care homes
- farcical PPE ordering and supply
- failing to enforce lockdown rules (Cummings)
- sending out confusing messages..go to work/stay at home
- failing to enforce rules in general

It has been a saga of incompetence. Now as far as football and other cultural/sporting events are concenrned people are left not knowing if they are coming or going. Policy is being made on the hoof. It is not for the public to come up with better ways of doing things...that is what governments are elected for.

France, Spain and Italy had very tough lockdowns in France you needed a form to go out, they ended lockdown before us and now have 11,000 new infections on one day this week, lockdown's do not work.
I do my Supermarket shop in Morrison's in Cleveleys they no longer count you in and out it's back to normal as far as that is concerned, from March to July you didn't need a gimp mask now you do so I trog through the supermarket with one on. On the way in the same building on the same floor is the resteraunt no need for masks in there it is ludicrous.
We were told wear a mask to keep infections down and they are now going up, do masks work well, no.
Looks like the Swedish way worked but the likes of Piers Organ etc forced the issue.
According to that dip rubbish Ferguson we may have to take tougher measures this is the man whose model stated 500,000 would peg it in Britain alone.

Thomas Dalby called it right

The reaction to Coronavirus here in Thailand has been strong, strict and lengthy, measures taken since March include

Closure of the borders - still in place
Curfew 9pm to 5am - removed in June
Alcohol ban - removed in June
Closure of all bars, restaurants, night clubs etc - removed August (restaurants reopened in July with strict rules)
Masks to be worn at all times in public - still in place
Body temperature taken when entering shopping malls, stores etc - still in place
Check in by app when entering shopping malls, stores etc - still in place

The list goes on but I wont bore you

The upshot being 1 domestic case of coronavirus in over 3 months. The downside is Thailands economy is in an appalling mess. Here on Samui an island reliant on tourism, the economy harubbish rock bottom. The main holiday town of Chaweng has been decimated, 99% of businesses have gone - many never to reopen. The population of Samui as shrunk by 60% as not only are there no tourists but many Thais who came to Samui to work have returned home to the mainland without a job. The same picture is painted on other areas reliant on tourism including Bangkok.

There is a real balancing act that governments around the world have had to achieve between public safety and the economy. Thailand did a great job of public safety but at what cost, suicides over the last 3 months have risen by 22%

The modern world had never had to manage a pandemic before and figures can be quoted but what we will never know is what would have happened without measures being put in place. In my opinion deaths would have been astronomical.

PS. Just checked it out. There were 2 waves with the 2nd more devastating and between 30 & 40k deaths in each. 2nd wave has often been worse than the 1st but whether that is because behaviour becomes lax or the virus strengthens I would not know. I certainly cannot recall large-scale financial issues like we have now.

There's a direct correlation between putting health first and economic well being.

The nations that have prioritised health, such as Germany, S Korea, N Zealand, have also fared better economically.

A positive!

So North End are playing in front of Spectators at Norwich on Saturday

By the sound of it restrictions coming our way tomorrow expect pubs to be shut early most of Lancashire to go on the naughty step

Looks like it may be 2021 before we can return to Deepdale (M Gove's statement this morning)

I can’t see any spectators for the full season. Wouldn’t be surprised if the league was suspended again.

Spectators trials on October have been called off.

who bought a season ticket then?

Here in Spain , we had very strict lockdown measures and they worked. The problem was that they opened up the borders in July and August to feed the economy, something that Spain is very reliant on, unlike the UK.
Yes, we are all hacked of because the whole country is now riddled with covid 19 and it seems that the 3 month lockdown was a waste of time.
The problem in the UK was that people just dont follow the guide lines which is a whole different thing. Self inflicted.

I don't disagree with much of this...the benefits of this are:

1) Same seat every game means that friendships and camaraderie develop over time
2) Priority for big away games
3) Priority for play off games (yes, I know...)
4) Cost

To me this is the order of importance.